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    Default Bareknucle old style boxing and Wing Chun

    I was jocking at the gym with my wife the other day making an old style boxing stance vs her wing chun stance when I realized all the similarities this two stances share. First the hands are hold in the midlle section in a vertical position, the weight in both stances is mostly on the rear leg and both are straight upward.

    I dug a bit around and found out that old style boxing shares a lot similarities with wing chun principles. The boxers of that time used vertical punches and short steps for the footwork, like wing chun. It is amazing to see similar styles in different parts of the world with apparently no connection at the time they were created (only so much you can do with your body).

    Can someone here expand more about similarities and differences of these two techniques?

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    Interesting enough...there is/was (I can't find the website anymore) a wing chun school here in Jacksonville, FL that blended the two at their school having recognized the similarities. I believe the school is called Centerline Academy

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    Okay... so I did some digging and I think he is now in Franklin, NC. This is his school now: http://www.innovativewingchun.com/#!...-knucle-boxing
    However I did some more reading online and found that he does still have classes in Jacksonville, FL as well. I met him once. I think on an older website I saw more stuff in connection with bareknuckle boxing and wing chun... but on the above link... you can see that bareknuckle boxing is offered at his school. I think I saw an article on it somewhere before too. I can't dig it up right now... but I'll see if I can later.

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    Old Bareknuckle Boxers used to use Hammerfists, backfists and even throws etc before Queensberry rules. OZ will be the man to ask for more detailed information.
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    I also read they used to have the strong arm as the leading arm, a concept also found in JKD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaleira View Post
    Okay... so I did some digging and I think he is now in Franklin, NC. This is his school now: http://www.innovativewingchun.com/#!...-knucle-boxing
    However I did some more reading online and found that he does still have classes in Jacksonville, FL as well. I met him once. I think on an older website I saw more stuff in connection with bareknuckle boxing and wing chun... but on the above link... you can see that bareknuckle boxing is offered at his school. I think I saw an article on it somewhere before too. I can't dig it up right now... but I'll see if I can later.
    Thanks for searching this Chaleira. I think a read about this school when I was searching more info about bareknucke boxing and wing chun

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcombatmethod View Post
    Beat me to the punch That is the article I was hinting to!

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    Im going to talk specific boxing since I know very little about wing chun.

    1. Verticle Punches, many boxers even today use verticle punches. The jab is meant to be a vertical punch according to many books on boxing. Horizontal punches only really happen naturally with the right hand due to the reach and rotation in the hips, in a standard boxing stance throw several jabs and come in with a right, you will notice your right fist will turn slightly, resisting the rotation is pointless. With movement in the body, the jab can change also

    2.Stance, not sure why old fashioned boxers are always flat with all the weight on the back foot. Most old fashioned boxing photos Ive seen still have the standard boxng stance, only difference is they may be a little more flat footed.

    Theres probably a fair few similarities, yet I see most of them is due to the reason boxers didnt go by the book back then, it was literally get in the ring and fight. Not saying Wing Chun is bad, just the similarities are probably due to coincedence and unawareness. Championship Streetfighting is a great read on the topic,

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